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Beste KD skive

Fatal Portrait
15
12%
Abigail
52
42%
Them
21
17%
Conspiracy
10
8%
The Eye
15
12%
The Spider's Lullabye
2
2%
The Graveyard
3
2%
Voodoo
0
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House Of God
2
2%
Abigail II
1
1%
The Puppet Master
2
2%
 
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Hal Patino has been relieved of his duties with King Diamond, for reasons very similar to why he was fired from the band in 1990.

This will have NO negative impact on our upcoming shows whatsoever.
On the contrary.

King

Kan noen oppdatere meg om hva som skjedde i 1990?

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IfĂžlge King Diamond himself var det vel noe drug-greier.

Og dette sier Hal Patino:

After 19 years in King Diamond - bassist Hal Patino has decided to leave the group.

It's sad that it had to end this way after - 19 years. I have always been 100% loyal to everyone in the band, and have always given my everything -onstage and offstage.
Since day one I have always had King Diamond as my nr. 1 priority. I've never ever missed any shows or rehearsals - my performances have always been well prepared (and I've always been ahead of the game). I have been a faithful friend to King, and kept my spirits up even in the toughest times.

I will not go into every detail, but the salary I was offered to headline Wacken Open Air, and the 4 other shows this summer was totally ridiculous.
Two days before the first rehearsal day, I wrote an e-mail explaining my view on that topic along with a proposal for a fair and realistic salary for these shows, For this, they accused me of’ "blackmailing" !!!
I found it disrespectful, and told them that if that is how I get treated after 19 years, we part immediately !!

So I already left the band on Thursday the 17th of July, by my own choice.

Of course it's not the only reason why I have decided to leave. Problems already occurred during the last European tour. Suddenly there were rules for my stage clothes and my way of performing, and there were bad vibes because I promoted and helped my son's band.


It’s typical King to say that I’m fired - he did the same to me back in 1990 when he told the press that I was kicked out of the band due to lack of enthusiasm and drug problems.
That was NOT the reason 
 It was just Too much touring, King got dropped by Roadrunner Records, and I wanted to go in another direction.
He did the same to my best friends Mikkey Dee and Pete Blakk.

I am in Norway at the moment and will play two live shows with my other band, I told the KD camp that I would be able to fly back and forth so I did not miss the two first rehearsals - and the next thing I read is a statement from King where it says that I'm fired.

I feel absolutely nothing for King Diamond and the band.
I am proud to have been part of the classic albums, and the glory days in the 80's.
And that's all !!

I really appreciate all the messages I have received from so many people, and I just want you to know that I'm busy with my new band Nordic Beast, with Mikkey Dee, John Norum & Co.

I got my other projects Ammunition, and the Rock’ N Roll adventure, and I'm playing and writing with my son Maryann Cotton who’s working with Dick Wagner and Alice Cooper on his new album.
I'm a permanent member of the band, and I've written 30% of the album together with Maryann.
It's going to be a full concept album in the spirit of Alice Cooper's Welcome To my Nightmare.

I’m also planning a solo project for the future.

I hope that many of the "die hard fans" that I've met over the years, understand my decision to leave the band. - Thank you all.
See you on tour with my other projects and bands. Rock 'N Roll !

Hal Patino


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Post by sumostig »

Litt kjipt. Fet bassist.


Men f**n, nÄr i h*****e skal King Diamond ta turen til Norge? King Diamond er, sammen med Mercyful Fate, det metalbandet i verden jeg har mest lyst til Ä se.

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Dramaet er i full gang

King Diamond wrote:KING DIAMOND – THE TRUTH


When someone puts out extreme lies about you and your character, there comes a time when you put a stop to it.

This is that time.


In the following, I will prove everything I say and I challenge Hal Patino to do the same with what he said.

HAL'S STATEMENT: „I will not go into every detail, but the salary I was offered to headline Wacken Open Air, and the 4 other shows this summer was totally ridiculous.

Two days before the first rehearsal day, I wrote an e-mail explaining my view on that topic along with a proposal for a fair and realistic salary for these shows, For this, they accused me of’ "blackmailing" !!!

I found it disrespectful, and told them that if that is how I get treated after 19 years, we part immediately !!

So I already left the band on Thursday the 17th of July, by my own choice.”

First of all, I have no problem disclosing the band salary for the European shows. For these 5 shows, it is €1000 per festival show. This salary does not include per diems for days not played on (which is on top of the salary), plus all shipping, travel, maintenance, strings, drum sticks, insurance, hotel; in short, the company bears all expenses.

We do not headline Wacken Open Air. In reality, we don't even headline the Black Stage. Sometimes the headliner is not the last band playing on a specific stage. As far as I know, Motorhead playing right before us are the headliner for Friday August 1st on the Black Stage.

After them, Slayer plays on the Main Stage and they are the Wacken headliner for Friday. Then we cool everything down on the Black Stage from midnight.

I don't remember who cools down the Main Stage after us.

I'm not gonna get into details on how our registered company in Denmark is run, but it's a full company with year round expenses, and if it wasn't for Wacken this year, I could guarantee that there wouldn't be a US tour in the autumn.

The two indoor shows in Berlin and Tilburg are straight losses, even if sold out.

On top of this comes EVERYTHING involved in a tour and our company is unfortunately not at the level of Megadeth, Slayer, etc, and can only offer what's possible.

We can't go and get loans in the bank to pay Hal's salary, however minor it may seem.

If Hal didn’t find that satisfactory, no one kept him from leaving. I just wish he hadn’t brought this up on the very day/evening I arrived in Denmark (17th of July). He’s had an entire year to think about this, and he brings it up now.

An important fact with regard to the salaries is that the entire crew and band from last year’s European tour is identical to both the European shows we’re about to do now and the US shows later this year, except for Hal.

It seems everybody is satisfied with what the company can offer at this point, except for Hal.

It doesn’t interest me one way or another whether Hal quit the band or he was asked to leave. It’s exactly the same result.

It is interesting though that Hal shipped his gear at the company’s expense to the rehearsal facilities on the very date (17th of July) when he claims that he quit the band. We have the receipt for that with stamped date. You can also see in his official statement that he says that he was willing to try to fly in for some of the early rehearsals from Norway. We’re talking after the 17th of July, which again, doesn’t make sense. Why would he want to try to arrange to fly in for rehearsals from Norway after he already quit the band?

HAL'S STATEMENT: „It’s typical King to say that I’m fired - he did the same to me back in 1990 when he told the press that I was kicked out of the band due to lack of enthusiasm and drug problems.

That was NOT the reason 
 It was just Too much touring, King got dropped by Roadrunner Records, and I wanted to go in another direction.

He did the same to my best friends Mikkey Dee and Pete Blakk.”

These are extremely insulting and pathetic lies.

First of all, would Hal EVER have come back to play for King Diamond if I had lied to the press about him being fired in 1990 due to drug problems?

Hal was taken back into the band, sometime after he had asked us in 2000 (I believe it was) at one of our rehearsals, which he was attending with his son, if he could ever get another chance. He swore he was totally clean and that he didn’t even drink anymore.

This, back then, made him a true hero to me, but this has of course changed now. I just don’t trust him enough anymore to rely on his contributions.

Next, can anybody explain to me what it means when Hal says that the reason he was fired was instead „too much touring”? What does this mean? When did anyone ever get fired for too much touring??

I would like Hal to present the letter from Roadrunner saying they were dropping us from the label, if he can. This is another outright lie.

Most of you already know that we bought our way out of Roadrunner by delivering to them „King Diamond Abigail LIVE 1987”, plus „Mercyful Fate – Return of the Vampire”. I also have the contract to prove this, and will gladly scan it in for all to see when I return to Dallas.

The whole problem with trust culminated while we were in the studio recording The Eye, at which time Ole Bang, Andy LaRocque and myself can vouch to the fact that Hal Patino was not to be found anywhere when he was supposed to lay down bass tracks. No one could find him, no matter how many phone calls we placed.

We ended up spending seven days watching the walls of expensive Sweet Silence studios in Denmark with absolutely nothing to do but sit and hope that Hal Patino would show up at some point.

This is actually part of the reason why we had to buy our way out from the Roadrunner contract. We were so under recouped that the label, with good reason I guess, wanted to take the over expenditure off our next recording budget.

This was simply not an option if we were to continue as a band at the time.

Seriously Hal, how dare you accuse me of having fired Mikkey Dee?! You might have forgotten, but both Andy and I remember very well Mikkey coming by Sweet Silence studios during The Eye recordings to play us the new Dokken album, which he had just recorded with them.

I have never uttered a bad word about Mikkey, whom I’ve always had the highest respect for, both as a drummer and as a person. And he knows that.

Pete Blakk had some problems like you during the recording of The Eye and the US tour prior to that, which at the time made him unreliable. A situation I think everybody knows he took care of in a very noble way.

HAL'S STATEMENT: „I am in Norway at the moment and will play two live shows with my other band, I told the KD camp that I would be able to fly back and forth so I did not miss the two first rehearsals - and the next thing I read is a statement from King where it says that I'm fired.”

Again, how is it possible to fire someone who has already quit???

LAST...

I would like to address Hal, if he reads this.

Personally, I don’t care if it says you quit, was let go, or whatever with regards to what has happened, but we will obviously never be working together again. There is no trust left.

We can stop it at that, or you can continue if you want, just don’t forget that I know so many of the people you associate with just as well as you, and I know what’s going on in your life.

Your real problem is really not what we’ve been talking about these past couple of days, right?

You know, in the end, I’m really trying to be nice about this.

King

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Lover ikke bra for dem som drar pÄ Nordic Beast-konserter for Ä hÞre King Diamond-lÄter...
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WHAT THE f**k!!? - King has done it again !

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Jeg synes ikke noen av de kommer spesielt bra ut av dette, men King Diamond har vel ikke noe kjemperykte for Ă„ vĂŠre en kjernekar fra fĂžr heller.

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Enig. Offentlig keyboardkriging gagner sjeldent noen av partene. De burde tatt sine private problemer med hverandre pÄ PM, helst med en mekler.

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En god stund siden jeg Snurra noe med Kongen nÄ. Har de fem fÞrste og de to siste skivene. Liker nok The Eye og Conspiracy best av disse.

Kjenner egentlig jÊvli dÄrlig til skivene f.o.m Spiders Lullabye - t.o.m Abigali II. Husker et par kompiser hadde The Graveyard og Voodoo, men husker bortimot ingenting av disse. Hvilke av disse skivene liker folket best da?

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Jeg syns bÄde The Spider's Lullabye og The Graveyard er j****g bra, men platene etter det er litt slappe.
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stramvaier wrote:En god stund siden jeg Snurra noe med Kongen nÄ. Har de fem fÞrste og de to siste skivene. Liker nok The Eye og Conspiracy best av disse.

Kjenner egentlig jÊvli dÄrlig til skivene f.o.m Spiders Lullabye - t.o.m Abigali II. Husker et par kompiser hadde The Graveyard og Voodoo, men husker bortimot ingenting av disse. Hvilke av disse skivene liker folket best da?

Treng vel egentlig ingen av dei som kom etter The Eye..
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GullbrĂžd wrote:
stramvaier wrote:En god stund siden jeg Snurra noe med Kongen nÄ. Har de fem fÞrste og de to siste skivene. Liker nok The Eye og Conspiracy best av disse.

Kjenner egentlig jÊvli dÄrlig til skivene f.o.m Spiders Lullabye - t.o.m Abigali II. Husker et par kompiser hadde The Graveyard og Voodoo, men husker bortimot ingenting av disse. Hvilke av disse skivene liker folket best da?

Treng vel egentlig ingen av dei som kom etter The Eye..


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Synes han har hatt jevnt over bra kvalitet pÄ alle skivene,men som "vanlig" er de beste blandt de fÞrste skivene.Abigail er i sÊrklasse,nesten pÄ hÞyde med Don`t break the oath og Melissa.Drit-kjipt med mer sparking og krangel blandt medlemmer.Kjenner ingen av dem,men kjenner ei som tidligere var sammen med Hal Patino,og kjenner King Diamond godt.Gleda seg til Ä treffe de igjen backstage pÄ wacken,men det blir ikke noe av nÄ.King Diamond trÞyene blir visst igjen hjemme,hehe.Okkesom,krangel eller ikke,jeg drar nÄ Ä ser de i Stockholm pÄ fredag.


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GullbrĂžd wrote:
stramvaier wrote:En god stund siden jeg Snurra noe med Kongen nÄ. Har de fem fÞrste og de to siste skivene. Liker nok The Eye og Conspiracy best av disse.

Kjenner egentlig jÊvli dÄrlig til skivene f.o.m Spiders Lullabye - t.o.m Abigali II. Husker et par kompiser hadde The Graveyard og Voodoo, men husker bortimot ingenting av disse. Hvilke av disse skivene liker folket best da?

Treng vel egentlig ingen av dei som kom etter The Eye..

Godt oppsummert, selv om det finnes bra enkeltlÄter pÄ f.eks House Of God. The Puppet Master er unntaket, det er en relativt god skive. MEn Spider's Lullabye, The Graveyard... ah, skrekk og gru. King hÞres ut som en parodi pÄ seg selv (sjekk ut "grÄte-sekvensen" mot slutten av en lÄt pÄ The graveyard - tragikomisk, for Ä si det svÊrt mildt) og riffene, produksjonen, ja det meste, hÞres stort sett fryktelig slapt ut. Dog, det finnes i hvert fall enkeltlÄter der man til en viss grad kan glede seg over. Vodoo er bedre produsert, men her finnes det ikke en eneste lÄt som fester seg for mitt vedkommende (og tro meg, jeg har gitt skiva mange gjennomhÞringer). Abigail 2 er, sammen med House Of God, noe bedre, men langt unna noen klassikere. Gimme Your Soul er et realt mageplask. Sist jeg hÞrte skiva tenkte jeg bare at "dette ORKER jeg ikke en gang til" og har aldri spilt den siden. Litt rart, for likte den faktisk til en viss grad da den kom ut, men gikk altsÄ fort lei. Det blir for slapt og uinspirert, det mangler trykk i riffingen og man fÞler at alle lÄtene er smidd over samme lest/komp. Kanskje setter jeg det litt pÄ spissen nÄ, men allikevel.

Nei, Abigail, The Eye, Conspiracy og Fatal Portrait, samt halve "Them" vil for alltid bli stÄende som kongens beste album. Abigail er og blir en klassiker, og jeg vÄger Ä si det samme om The Eye og Fatal Portrait. Conspiracy og "Them" er for ujevne til Ä kunne kalles klassikere, men Conspiracy innehar to av King Diamonds beste lÄter noensinne, nemlig "Sleepless Nights" og den uforlignelige "A Visit From The Dead".

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Ble en runde med The Eye og The Puppet Master i steiksola pÄ taket idag. Kos! Tar en runde i morgen ogsÄ.


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Synes King Diamond har gitt ut masse av verdi etter The Eye. Synes alle skivene, med unntak av den svake Give Me Your Soul... Please, er gode. The Spider's Lullabye, Voodoo, House of God, Abigail II: The Revenge og The Puppet Master er ikke bare gode, men veldig gode.

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sumostig wrote:Synes King Diamond har gitt ut masse av verdi etter The Eye. Synes alle skivene, med unntak av den svake Give Me Your Soul... Please, er gode. The Spider's Lullabye, Voodoo, House of God, Abigail II: The Revenge og The Puppet Master er ikke bare gode, men veldig gode.

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Abigail II brukte eg svÊrt lang tid pÄ, men etterhvert Äpenbarte det seg ett svÊrt bra album. The puppet master er nok den beste KD skiva etter The Eye, men jeg har ogsÄ sansen for Voodoo. Ellers inneholder alle skivene sjefslÄter, men de er ujevne.


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