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Virgin Steele - Nocturnes of helllfire and damnation.
Hva f**n er det med Virgin Steele og produksjon? Helt utrolig stusselig.
I never looked around, never second-guessed
Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed
And now I can't sleep from years of apathy
All because I read a little Noam Chomsky
Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed
And now I can't sleep from years of apathy
All because I read a little Noam Chomsky
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Fornøyde selv ihvertfall:Udunpute wrote:Hva f**n er det med Virgin Steele og produksjon? Helt utrolig stusselig.
http://www.virgin-steele.com/news.htmlEdmund: Guys the new album is incredible. I love the real natural sound you achieved. Please tell me something about the sessions and the recording approach.
David: Thanks very; very much for your kind words…I most certainly appreciate them. Yes we wanted a more organic, natural sounding album. We wanted it to sound like a live onstage album…I personally am a big fan of albums like Led Zeppelin’s Physical Graffiti and well…all their albums especially the first 2, plus all the Queen stuff. I love the huge room sounding toms on those Works. I tried to get more of a live feel than a studio vibe for the album, and I wanted to capture the sweat and the noise that occurs when songs get royally fired up. I wanted to try and capture passion and a sense of urgency, and try to bring forth the essential essence of what these songs were saying. I wanted Burning Sword, Fire-Breathing Magick…
[BBvideo 560,340]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA6e3xdpoYg[/BBvideo]
[BBvideo 560,340]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5D3jqp0Mjg[/BBvideo]
Låter mer rett på sak disse tre låtene enn det meste på de to forrige skivene, og det kan fort bli et pluss. Må nok si meg litt enig angående vokalen til Defeis. Den er nok ikke helt som den var på sitt beste på nittitallet, men synge kan mannen fortsatt.
Ellers spent på fellesanmeldelsen. Antar Nørsterud (som har peil på bra musikk) gir en god karakter, og ymse fra resten av gjengen...
Bonus:
Sjefen lager Penne of the Fearless!
[BBvideo 560,340]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=938&v=e2HrndyKNi8[/BBvideo]
[BBvideo 560,340]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5D3jqp0Mjg[/BBvideo]
Låter mer rett på sak disse tre låtene enn det meste på de to forrige skivene, og det kan fort bli et pluss. Må nok si meg litt enig angående vokalen til Defeis. Den er nok ikke helt som den var på sitt beste på nittitallet, men synge kan mannen fortsatt.
Ellers spent på fellesanmeldelsen. Antar Nørsterud (som har peil på bra musikk) gir en god karakter, og ymse fra resten av gjengen...
Bonus:
Sjefen lager Penne of the Fearless!
[BBvideo 560,340]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=938&v=e2HrndyKNi8[/BBvideo]
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Skjønner meg ikke helt på denne skiva. Det er jo bare pesing, hvining og uling. Det var tendenser til dette sist gang også men den gang plaget det meg ikke. Jeg har spilt igjennom skiva en gang og det er to, kanskje tre brukbare låter. Resten er dvaskt og slapt. Alt låter så nedpå og uforløst. Jeg hører tilløp til gode melodi og vokallinjer, men de følges ikke opp og jeg klarer ikke å forstå hvordan Defeis tenker. Det hjelper heller ikke at store deler av skiva låter som en baladesamling. Det frister ikke med gjenhør.
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Defeis har tydligvis samme problem som Rock'n Rolf.
"Rockpages.gr conducted an exclusive interview with Frank Gilchriest (RIOT, VIRGIN STEELE, HOLY MOTHER), in which he revealed that he is no longer a member of VIRGIN STEELE after a 20-year career with them. Gilchriest underlined that he didn't play on the last VIRGIN STEELE record "Nocturnes of Hellfire and Damnation"as the band's leader David DeFeis decided to use instead a drum machine. The interview will be published within the week but here's the excerpt: Rockpages.gr: You told me a few days ago that you didn’t play on the new Virgin Steele album. Would you like to elaborate a little bit more on that? Why did David DeFeis decide not to use your drumming skills this time around? Frabk Gilchriest: I think that is a question more for Dave. I haven't recorded anything with them in over five years. I offered to record all or at least part of the CD in my studio for free, where I recorded the Riot V CD and other projects but he was not interested. I was really disappointed in his decision. When I pressed him further on this issue, he told me he could do just as good and less costly a job by playing the drums himself with his piano using drumming software and his computer. In fact, he told me that a quadriplegic could play the drums as good as anyone else these days because of advances in technology. Nothing against quadriplegics, but seriously? He also stated he wanted to do the drums himself so that if the CD is a great success, he can take all the glory or if the CD is a failure, he can take all the blame. You may notice that on the new release and bonus tracks that the software drums are more prominent in the mix, whereas on the recordings that I played real drums on, the drums are buried. Recording drums is a serious art form. On the early Virgin Steele classic albums, the drums sounded amazing and were upfront in the mix because the band recorded in a professional studio with a competent engineer. “Invictus” came the closest to my true sound but even that recording was lacking due to the incompetence of the engineer who hated heavy metal and never recorded a heavy metal album before aside from the Virgin Steele ones. He was a hip hop engineer and had no idea what do to do with loud pounding drums. After “Invictus,” Dave took control of the recording process and the drum recordings and mixes got progressively worse until I was replaced by a drum machine [...] I will no loner be playing with VIRGIN STEELE."
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"Rockpages.gr conducted an exclusive interview with Frank Gilchriest (RIOT, VIRGIN STEELE, HOLY MOTHER), in which he revealed that he is no longer a member of VIRGIN STEELE after a 20-year career with them. Gilchriest underlined that he didn't play on the last VIRGIN STEELE record "Nocturnes of Hellfire and Damnation"as the band's leader David DeFeis decided to use instead a drum machine. The interview will be published within the week but here's the excerpt: Rockpages.gr: You told me a few days ago that you didn’t play on the new Virgin Steele album. Would you like to elaborate a little bit more on that? Why did David DeFeis decide not to use your drumming skills this time around? Frabk Gilchriest: I think that is a question more for Dave. I haven't recorded anything with them in over five years. I offered to record all or at least part of the CD in my studio for free, where I recorded the Riot V CD and other projects but he was not interested. I was really disappointed in his decision. When I pressed him further on this issue, he told me he could do just as good and less costly a job by playing the drums himself with his piano using drumming software and his computer. In fact, he told me that a quadriplegic could play the drums as good as anyone else these days because of advances in technology. Nothing against quadriplegics, but seriously? He also stated he wanted to do the drums himself so that if the CD is a great success, he can take all the glory or if the CD is a failure, he can take all the blame. You may notice that on the new release and bonus tracks that the software drums are more prominent in the mix, whereas on the recordings that I played real drums on, the drums are buried. Recording drums is a serious art form. On the early Virgin Steele classic albums, the drums sounded amazing and were upfront in the mix because the band recorded in a professional studio with a competent engineer. “Invictus” came the closest to my true sound but even that recording was lacking due to the incompetence of the engineer who hated heavy metal and never recorded a heavy metal album before aside from the Virgin Steele ones. He was a hip hop engineer and had no idea what do to do with loud pounding drums. After “Invictus,” Dave took control of the recording process and the drum recordings and mixes got progressively worse until I was replaced by a drum machine [...] I will no loner be playing with VIRGIN STEELE."
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Det smerter å lese hva Gilchriest sier her. Noe så stusselig. Mistenkte i grunnen at mannen var ute da jeg titta igjennom bookleten til den nye skiva og så at han ikke hadde bidratt. Han spilte vel knapt på den forrige heller, så det kom jo ikke som noen bombe, men at David heller foretrekker å programmere trommene er beyond me...
Ellers må jeg si meg foreløpig ganske enig i hva du skriver om skiva, Vorax. Vokalen har dessverre gradvis blitt dårligere de siste åra, men den har ikke plaga meg på noen måte tidligere heller. Hovedproblemet nå er at Defeis overdriver vokalen i for stor grad. Et eksempel på det er denne fryktelig lyse lyden han lager innimellom. Skiva skal få en del runder til, men for øyeblikket er dette en skuffelse. Fælt å si det!
Ellers må jeg si meg foreløpig ganske enig i hva du skriver om skiva, Vorax. Vokalen har dessverre gradvis blitt dårligere de siste åra, men den har ikke plaga meg på noen måte tidligere heller. Hovedproblemet nå er at Defeis overdriver vokalen i for stor grad. Et eksempel på det er denne fryktelig lyse lyden han lager innimellom. Skiva skal få en del runder til, men for øyeblikket er dette en skuffelse. Fælt å si det!
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Skiva har vokst seg til godkjent. Bortsett fra noe bunnfall så holder skiva et jevnt ok nivå, men det er ingen låter som når opp på en VS topp 20 liste. Likevel utmerker spor 1-5 samt The Plague and the fire og tittelsporet som godt over middels høydepunkt. Ellers er produlsjonen som vanlig under par og trommene er dessverre programerte. På den positive siden så virker det som Edward Pursino har fått mer spillerom enn på de to siste skivene og både gitarlyd og spilling er langt bedre. Alt i alt så kan jeg med mye godvilje gi skiva en sterk treer/svak firer.
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Jeg klarer så vidt å tvinge frem en treer her. Vokalen er, som andre nevner, helt på jordet. Produksjonen er skrekkelig. Låtene er daffe og stort sett uinteressante. Når jeg tenker meg om blir det ikke mer enn en toer.
I never looked around, never second-guessed
Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed
And now I can't sleep from years of apathy
All because I read a little Noam Chomsky
Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed
And now I can't sleep from years of apathy
All because I read a little Noam Chomsky
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Selv om jeg finner godlåter på begge de siste skivene, så er jeg enig. Visions of eden er derimot bra, bortsett fra de sure gitarene til Defeis da.MARDVK wrote:Dette bandet er dessverre dødt og har vært det en stund nå.
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De videoene der må jo være de trveste, kvlteste metalverdenen har sett. 
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Jeg liker skiva veldig godt og remixen skal i hus. Jeg har kun hørt disse to låtene med ny lyd og det låter absolutt bedre, men gitarene er fortsatt sure og trommelyden er fæl.Invictus wrote:De videoene der må jo være de trveste, kvlteste metalverdenen har sett.
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